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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-674</link>
		<author>Annie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ergh.  I get that now every now and again and it ain't nice, believe me.  It's definitely male and not at all friendly.  Starts telling me I'm useless, ugly, I don't deserve to find love and other kinds of complete and absolute drivel.  I know what its saying is  of frankly a load of bullshit, but it's like having an alien inside my head for a while.  Usually I let rant and rave, try to ignore and it wears itself out.  Sometimes if it's especially 'orrible, I ask the Goddess to give it a boot the hell out of my head; that's quite effacious.  Or my personal...don't know what you'd call him.  Guardian angel?  Benign friendly male energy that's been with me for some time now?  Has been held helpful in getting rid of the grumpy old twat also.  But will definitely check out books.  Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ergh.  I get that now every now and again and it ain&#8217;t nice, believe me.  It&#8217;s definitely male and not at all friendly.  Starts telling me I&#8217;m useless, ugly, I don&#8217;t deserve to find love and other kinds of complete and absolute drivel.  I know what its saying is  of frankly a load of bullshit, but it&#8217;s like having an alien inside my head for a while.  Usually I let rant and rave, try to ignore and it wears itself out.  Sometimes if it&#8217;s especially &#8216;orrible, I ask the Goddess to give it a boot the hell out of my head; that&#8217;s quite effacious.  Or my personal&#8230;don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;d call him.  Guardian angel?  Benign friendly male energy that&#8217;s been with me for some time now?  Has been held helpful in getting rid of the grumpy old twat also.  But will definitely check out books.  Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<author>Lauren</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think I've spotted this shadow king, but you'll never guess where. In the shadow of...a Goddess! Athena to be exact. (stick with me here.) 
Athena was (according to Tim Ward's "Savage Breast") used as a prop in ancient athens to inspire men in the proper "male" virtues of the polis, voting, fighting in war ect., all rights denied to athenian women, and yet here is a town that espouses first of all the worship of a goddes. Odd, no?

Again Athena is always the goddess called upon to fight unsavory female characters in greek myth, the Furies, Medusa. Characters that Mr. Ward makes an excellent case represent the demonic feminine, everything a patriarchial social system is afraid of in women. Wildness, oldness, rage, blood, mysterious sexual &#38; reproductive processes. 

Athena is also the only goddes Zeus will allow to wield his thunderbolt, why? Because she can be trusted to obey her father, to absolutely uphold the status quo unquestioningly. In "Oedipus"  Athena even says, " There is no mother anywhere who gave me birth, and but for marriage I am always for the male with all my heart, and strongly on my father's side." Mr. Ward describes a personality type in women that makes them act exactly like this, wishing for the debasement of their own sex to unfairly favor men. He says, we've all heard of an Uncle Tom, but maybe now women can claim an Aunt Athena. 

Only with women seizing the traditional attributes of Athena, wisdom, the power to vote, has Athena been remade to support women once again as she most likely had done in prehistoric days. Apparently mortal women alone are not the only ones who have to deal with a shadow king.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve spotted this shadow king, but you&#8217;ll never guess where. In the shadow of&#8230;a Goddess! Athena to be exact. (stick with me here.)<br />
Athena was (according to Tim Ward&#8217;s &#8220;Savage Breast&#8221;) used as a prop in ancient athens to inspire men in the proper &#8220;male&#8221; virtues of the polis, voting, fighting in war ect., all rights denied to athenian women, and yet here is a town that espouses first of all the worship of a goddes. Odd, no?</p>
<p>Again Athena is always the goddess called upon to fight unsavory female characters in greek myth, the Furies, Medusa. Characters that Mr. Ward makes an excellent case represent the demonic feminine, everything a patriarchial social system is afraid of in women. Wildness, oldness, rage, blood, mysterious sexual &amp; reproductive processes. </p>
<p>Athena is also the only goddes Zeus will allow to wield his thunderbolt, why? Because she can be trusted to obey her father, to absolutely uphold the status quo unquestioningly. In &#8220;Oedipus&#8221;  Athena even says, &#8221; There is no mother anywhere who gave me birth, and but for marriage I am always for the male with all my heart, and strongly on my father&#8217;s side.&#8221; Mr. Ward describes a personality type in women that makes them act exactly like this, wishing for the debasement of their own sex to unfairly favor men. He says, we&#8217;ve all heard of an Uncle Tom, but maybe now women can claim an Aunt Athena. </p>
<p>Only with women seizing the traditional attributes of Athena, wisdom, the power to vote, has Athena been remade to support women once again as she most likely had done in prehistoric days. Apparently mortal women alone are not the only ones who have to deal with a shadow king.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-676</link>
		<author>Anna</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>David Richo's Shadow Dance: Liberating the Power &#38; Creativity of Your Dark Side is also an excellent resource!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Richo&#8217;s Shadow Dance: Liberating the Power &amp; Creativity of Your Dark Side is also an excellent resource!</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-680</link>
		<author>Hank</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hmmmm...long yes....motivated...totally! Shadow king? pfffft! Man is that in everyone i know!!!  what do you say when you know that even when you show a little interest, people assume you are in for the long haul... Let it go! Be in the moment! don't expect much! Hope for the best though!!! Throttle back I say! (not you Sera! :-))  The voice is in us all!! trying to keep us from ascending! Ego..??.I've met mine!  But told him I knew his most inner secrets...He had no power!  and finally agreed.   Here in Texas for now, attempting to convince people to come with us....people are simply stubborn, no matter what is coming!!! Hurricane? I'll hang!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;long yes&#8230;.motivated&#8230;totally! Shadow king? pfffft! Man is that in everyone i know!!!  what do you say when you know that even when you show a little interest, people assume you are in for the long haul&#8230; Let it go! Be in the moment! don&#8217;t expect much! Hope for the best though!!! Throttle back I say! (not you Sera! :-))  The voice is in us all!! trying to keep us from ascending! Ego..??.I&#8217;ve met mine!  But told him I knew his most inner secrets&#8230;He had no power!  and finally agreed.   Here in Texas for now, attempting to convince people to come with us&#8230;.people are simply stubborn, no matter what is coming!!! Hurricane? I&#8217;ll hang!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gidget Commando</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-681</link>
		<author>Gidget Commando</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think I may need a B-12 shot and and some vacation time to deal with mine right now. This finding your own path stuff sure wears a girl out! (I'm still walking down the path. Just slowed it down to a stroll so I don't pass out.)

Thanks for the guidance, and the bibliography. It's important to get beyond the "good girl/bad girl" dichotomy and really integrate that stuff. Some of it comes a bit more naturally as you get a little too old to be called "girl," but only if you're open to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I may need a B-12 shot and and some vacation time to deal with mine right now. This finding your own path stuff sure wears a girl out! (I&#8217;m still walking down the path. Just slowed it down to a stroll so I don&#8217;t pass out.)</p>
<p>Thanks for the guidance, and the bibliography. It&#8217;s important to get beyond the &#8220;good girl/bad girl&#8221; dichotomy and really integrate that stuff. Some of it comes a bit more naturally as you get a little too old to be called &#8220;girl,&#8221; but only if you&#8217;re open to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-682</link>
		<author>Elizabeth</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wow! I am so glad I found this post. I have been dealing with my inner critic and really trying to recognize when he is speaking and how he is trying to protect my ego, but to see him as the patriarchal Shadow King is so helpful. This completely resonates with me, but it can be really hard to listen to this voice. When I started writing down what he said I actually burst into tears. Has this ever happened to you? It is a really painful process. I guess with practice it gets better. Also, will just being aware of the SK weaken him because what he says I still take very personally and it still holds me back from doing many things I want with my life. Do I really need to go through the process of writing what he says because it can seem very destructive. I probably need to read one of the books you recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I am so glad I found this post. I have been dealing with my inner critic and really trying to recognize when he is speaking and how he is trying to protect my ego, but to see him as the patriarchal Shadow King is so helpful. This completely resonates with me, but it can be really hard to listen to this voice. When I started writing down what he said I actually burst into tears. Has this ever happened to you? It is a really painful process. I guess with practice it gets better. Also, will just being aware of the SK weaken him because what he says I still take very personally and it still holds me back from doing many things I want with my life. Do I really need to go through the process of writing what he says because it can seem very destructive. I probably need to read one of the books you recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-683</link>
		<author>Maddy</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>He seemed pretty chilled out. It was a little hard to breathe and I feel close to tears but it was mainly smaller stuff like 'I'm annoyed that mum didn't give you everything you wanted but you should have done more for her while you could'.

he also had some positive stuff to say. 

Thanks for doing what you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He seemed pretty chilled out. It was a little hard to breathe and I feel close to tears but it was mainly smaller stuff like &#8216;I&#8217;m annoyed that mum didn&#8217;t give you everything you wanted but you should have done more for her while you could&#8217;.</p>
<p>he also had some positive stuff to say. </p>
<p>Thanks for doing what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-686</link>
		<author>Rebecca</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My shadow king basically told me I am a failure(perhaps just channeling my dads hopefully old feeling toward me), that I will be a terrible mom (currently 12 weeks pregnant) and that my delivery will be horrible.  I told him that I was not a failure, that I will not be a terrible mom that I will do the best that I can and that there was no way my delivery would be horrible because of the birthing class I am currently taking.   I also told him to chill out and take a Midol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My shadow king basically told me I am a failure(perhaps just channeling my dads hopefully old feeling toward me), that I will be a terrible mom (currently 12 weeks pregnant) and that my delivery will be horrible.  I told him that I was not a failure, that I will not be a terrible mom that I will do the best that I can and that there was no way my delivery would be horrible because of the birthing class I am currently taking.   I also told him to chill out and take a Midol.</p>
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		<title>By: Thalia</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-697</link>
		<author>Thalia</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Annie wrote:

"Or my personal…don’t know what you’d call him. Guardian angel? Benign friendly male energy that’s been with me for some time now? Has been held helpful in getting rid of the grumpy old twat also."

"Daimon" I think might be the word you want. Check out Caitlin Matthews' In Search of Women's Passionate Soul: Revealing the Daimon Lover Within.  Oh my God what a helpful book that was for me.

I don't know about this Shadow King stuff. Not that I'm opposed to shadow work, and I have done plenty of it (I think); but my instincts are telling me that when this guy comes up, this patriarch, this internalized voice of the patriarchy, that my best bet is to kick the fucker to the curb. I get enough of that crap out in the world, thanks.  I'm thinking of what Clarissa Pinkola Estes calls "the predator", which sounds a lot like the same figure. Him, she says, it is both safe and wise to ignore.  So I don't know.

That could, of course, simply be resistance or denial.  Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annie wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Or my personal…don’t know what you’d call him. Guardian angel? Benign friendly male energy that’s been with me for some time now? Has been held helpful in getting rid of the grumpy old twat also.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Daimon&#8221; I think might be the word you want. Check out Caitlin Matthews&#8217; In Search of Women&#8217;s Passionate Soul: Revealing the Daimon Lover Within.  Oh my God what a helpful book that was for me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about this Shadow King stuff. Not that I&#8217;m opposed to shadow work, and I have done plenty of it (I think); but my instincts are telling me that when this guy comes up, this patriarch, this internalized voice of the patriarchy, that my best bet is to kick the fucker to the curb. I get enough of that crap out in the world, thanks.  I&#8217;m thinking of what Clarissa Pinkola Estes calls &#8220;the predator&#8221;, which sounds a lot like the same figure. Him, she says, it is both safe and wise to ignore.  So I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>That could, of course, simply be resistance or denial.  Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-705</link>
		<author>James</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi, I found your blog on this new directory of WordPress Blogs at blackhatbootcamp.com/listofwordpressblogs.  I dont know how your blog came up, must have been a typo, i duno.  Anyways, I just clicked it and here I am.  Your blog looks good.  Have a nice day.  James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I found your blog on this new directory of WordPress Blogs at blackhatbootcamp.com/listofwordpressblogs.  I dont know how your blog came up, must have been a typo, i duno.  Anyways, I just clicked it and here I am.  Your blog looks good.  Have a nice day.  James.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolyn</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-713</link>
		<author>Jolyn</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Shadow King post came at such a beautiful time for me.  I was flat dumped three weeks ago after being with me ex for many years.  I've been doing my very best to feel free, powerful, liberated, etc... but I keep hearing, "Now you'll never get married.  You'll never have children.  You're not worthy of love..." etc... TOTALLY F***ed up to say the least!  

My Shadow King and I have some talking to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shadow King post came at such a beautiful time for me.  I was flat dumped three weeks ago after being with me ex for many years.  I&#8217;ve been doing my very best to feel free, powerful, liberated, etc&#8230; but I keep hearing, &#8220;Now you&#8217;ll never get married.  You&#8217;ll never have children.  You&#8217;re not worthy of love&#8230;&#8221; etc&#8230; TOTALLY F***ed up to say the least!  </p>
<p>My Shadow King and I have some talking to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Gidget Commando</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-726</link>
		<author>Gidget Commando</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mine is currently kicking my ass. No matter that I've been completely overloaded both personally and professionally holding everyone up through multiple traumas, it's harping "FAILURE!" at me for recent mistakes at work. It's warning me that my upcoming attendance at my first Wiccan ceremony is not a wise exploration into a possible spiritual path but a dangerous encounter with evil spirits that will leave me possessed and institutionalized for life. It's really being a pain in the ass.

But this morning, when he was bitching about my dire fate for exploring something other than mainstream Christianity, I remembered what you said about him wanting to protect me, no matter how annoying he was being about it. I explained to him how I arrived at my decision to try it and why I could trust the people with whom I will be exploring this, and he kinda muttered to himself and shuffled away. Thank you for the advice, Sera--a few minutes of peace and certainty were worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine is currently kicking my ass. No matter that I&#8217;ve been completely overloaded both personally and professionally holding everyone up through multiple traumas, it&#8217;s harping &#8220;FAILURE!&#8221; at me for recent mistakes at work. It&#8217;s warning me that my upcoming attendance at my first Wiccan ceremony is not a wise exploration into a possible spiritual path but a dangerous encounter with evil spirits that will leave me possessed and institutionalized for life. It&#8217;s really being a pain in the ass.</p>
<p>But this morning, when he was bitching about my dire fate for exploring something other than mainstream Christianity, I remembered what you said about him wanting to protect me, no matter how annoying he was being about it. I explained to him how I arrived at my decision to try it and why I could trust the people with whom I will be exploring this, and he kinda muttered to himself and shuffled away. Thank you for the advice, Sera&#8211;a few minutes of peace and certainty were worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Mike</title>
		<link>http://spiritualcowgirl.com/?p=313#comment-762</link>
		<author>Lightning Mike</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great post! Reminds me of a conference table technique from my energy healing school where you invite all the different Sybil like subpersonalities from Hal and Sidra's voice dialog pantheon to the table that are relevant to a particular question and then bring your higher self in and try to help all those forces come into balance so you can get a creative integration that everybody can support. As you go around, you speak out all of those energies in their own voices...and yes it can be a motley crew with some shadowy creeps having undue influence. I haven't read the SK book you reference, but it sounds like the Protector/ Controller in Embracing our Selves when it's out of balance...astrologically the energy of Saturn, that lovable old paranoid baby eater. I've come to a new love of Saturn in balance lately though, it's interesting how crystalline and beautiful it is with it's rings compared to the big gassy amorphous Jupiter that everyone loves. Here's a great example of the loving suffering-free star tetrahedral structure of the vacuum that Saturn is actually transmitting which unfortunately got twisted and mistranslated by the Ol Patriarchy into a crucifying cross for a long time, a bastardization of Saturn's energy which still has us reacting with hackles up http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034 Once we slough off those clunky old non resonant square structures that were forced on us though and get in touch with the better resonant structures (See the 64 tetrahedron vector equilibrium for a better fitting Saturn jacket), Saturn becomes a wonderful container and vehicle for frictionless manifesting...interestingly, both Saturn and Jupiter radiate more energy than they absorb from the sun...so the payoff of this shadow integration and re-alignment of those core energies with a more coherent order is the ability to MANIFEST from the vacuum and be a DIVINE father provider, the highest octave of Saturn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Reminds me of a conference table technique from my energy healing school where you invite all the different Sybil like subpersonalities from Hal and Sidra&#8217;s voice dialog pantheon to the table that are relevant to a particular question and then bring your higher self in and try to help all those forces come into balance so you can get a creative integration that everybody can support. As you go around, you speak out all of those energies in their own voices&#8230;and yes it can be a motley crew with some shadowy creeps having undue influence. I haven&#8217;t read the SK book you reference, but it sounds like the Protector/ Controller in Embracing our Selves when it&#8217;s out of balance&#8230;astrologically the energy of Saturn, that lovable old paranoid baby eater. I&#8217;ve come to a new love of Saturn in balance lately though, it&#8217;s interesting how crystalline and beautiful it is with it&#8217;s rings compared to the big gassy amorphous Jupiter that everyone loves. Here&#8217;s a great example of the loving suffering-free star tetrahedral structure of the vacuum that Saturn is actually transmitting which unfortunately got twisted and mistranslated by the Ol Patriarchy into a crucifying cross for a long time, a bastardization of Saturn&#8217;s energy which still has us reacting with hackles up <a href="http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034" rel="nofollow">http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-034</a> Once we slough off those clunky old non resonant square structures that were forced on us though and get in touch with the better resonant structures (See the 64 tetrahedron vector equilibrium for a better fitting Saturn jacket), Saturn becomes a wonderful container and vehicle for frictionless manifesting&#8230;interestingly, both Saturn and Jupiter radiate more energy than they absorb from the sun&#8230;so the payoff of this shadow integration and re-alignment of those core energies with a more coherent order is the ability to MANIFEST from the vacuum and be a DIVINE father provider, the highest octave of Saturn.</p>
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